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UnplayedHanjieHanjie 700: Butterfly30x30110546:07Moderate (168)Was free until 31st Mar 202117th MarExpired
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Completed by240 users
Best time without any aid11:37 by purrs
Best time with show wrong
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6:50 by kuchka
Average solve time with no or minor aid47:53
Average solve time with no aid47:46
Average difficulty rating - all players4.6/10.0
Average difficulty rating - no aid4.1/10.0
Average difficulty rating - minor aid3.3/10.0
Average difficulty rating - major aid1.0/10.0
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Posted 17th Mar 2021 at 04:35
kiri1299 Daily subscriber Best completion time: 44:55 Time on first attempt: 1:00:05 Used 'show wrong moves'
Hooray - I was hoping to see this one again ! Thanks Gareth :))
Posted 17th Mar 2021 at 06:48
winterer Daily subscriber Rated puzzle: Moderate Completion time: 20:37 Used 'show wrong moves' Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
Oh noes... the dreaded "you got one wrong square"...
Posted 17th Mar 2021 at 15:26
Cartoonite Daily subscriber Rated puzzle: Hard Completion time: 1:12:26
Well, that's a first. I got logged out while I was doing the puzzle so I couldn't complete it.

When I tried I got a weird view with the login prompt sitting inside the puzzle window but not responding when I clicked "Login".

When I returned to the main windows the puzzle showed as complete (red square) but when I reloaded the page I got logged out and after logging back in again the puzzle now shows as started but not completed (green play/pause symbol).

Posted 17th Mar 2021 at 15:34
JoergWausW Daily subscriber Completion time: 26:17
Imagine what might happen when your subscription runs out while you're solving a puzzle... ;-)
Posted 17th Mar 2021 at 17:08
Last edited by gareth 17th Mar 2021 at 17:15
gareth Administrator Daily subscriber Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
Oh, I have never given that any thought. I suppose it should give you a grace period on the subscription for submission purposes.

The login issue is weird - it shouldn't be possible to get logged out while playing the puzzle. Cartoonite, sorry about that and thank you for letting me know. Even though I don't know why it happened, I should check explicitly for that issue in the player - it should make sure the completion text doesn't include login info. Sounds like your login cookie was removed during play, although I don't know why since the site never expires them. I'll take a look, though, since if a status save fails it would be good if you could login in another window and then hit 'retry'!

Someone else had an issue with the puzzle list window being open so long the puzzles expired, which may be related to Cartoonite's issue. I could fix that by having the main puzzle list refresh itself every 30 minutes or some such, but I need to be a little careful because the player communicates with it to update your status and it would be a shame to lose that functionality on puzzles you simply take a long time to solve. Of course a modern implementation using React or some such wouldn't have this issue - really it should dynamically pick up changes, rather than rely on being prodded by another window.

Posted 17th Mar 2021 at 21:11
JoergWausW Daily subscriber Completion time: 26:17
I just remember: Recently I was logged out automatically from puzzlemix. But that was some time before I renewed my subscription recently. I thought that some cookie might have run out (I didn't delete any cookies and on other websites I was still logged in). In both cases, something looks wrong :-) But if an automatic logout shouldn't happen I don't know what it was.

<wink> Maybe there should be a warning like: "According to your average puzzle solving time, you might not be able to finish before you will be logged out automatically. Do you want to try to beat your mean self anyway?"</wink>

Posted 17th Mar 2021 at 22:51
gareth Administrator Daily subscriber Has started but not yet finished this puzzle
I've checked and the login actually lasts for 1 year, so it will then log you out if the browser honours the expiry setting. Well there we go - I wrote that 16 years ago so had forgotten. :)

So yes, once a year you might have that problem I guess, particularly if you happen to always play at the same time of day (so it is more likely to coincide with that exact moment!).

Posted 18th Mar 2021 at 19:34
JoergWausW Daily subscriber Completion time: 26:17
So we just have to get up at an "impossible time", log out, log back in and everything should be fine.
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  • Rating scores out of 10.0 show the average difficulty rating chosen by users, where 1.0 is "Easy" and 10.0 is "Hard".
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  • Minor aid is defined as no more than one use of 'Check solution' when incomplete and/or no more than one use of 'Check solution' when wrong; and/or using highlighting aids (show repeated digits, show broken inequalities and show valid/invalid placements [slitherlink] only). Major aid is any and all other use of the solving aids except for 'show wrong'.

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