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### Comments and Results for 'Wraparound Sudoku-6 163'

 State Type Title Size Played Avg time Rating (#users) Yours Your best Published Expires Wraparound Sudoku-6 163 6x6 104 1:43 Easy (81) Subscribers only 22nd May - Show full chart rankings for Wraparound Sudoku-6 163
 Your puzzle statistics First solution time distribution Overall puzzle statistics Log in (or create a free user)to store and view your puzzle statistics Slowest 10% not shown0:00 2:41 Solution time without 'show wrong' Slowest 10% not shown0:00 2:40 Unaided first solution time Slowest 10% not shown0:00 2:23 Completed by 101 users Best time without any aid 0:36 by Silke Best time with major aid 0:15 by purrs Average solve time with no or minor aid 1:37 Average solve time with no aid 1:35 Average difficulty rating - all players 1.0/10.0 Average difficulty rating - no aid 1.0/10.0 Average difficulty rating - minor aid 1.0/10.0 Average difficulty rating - major aid 1.0/10.0 Average difficulty rating - show wrong ormultiple sessions 1.0/10.0
Posted 22nd May 2020 at 05:09
JoergWausW Daily subscriber Completion time: 0:43 Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
And then I put in the wrong very last digit...
Posted 23rd May 2020 at 03:44
gareth Administrator Daily subscriber Rated puzzle: Easy Completion time: 1:48
And I put in the wrong very first digit. :)
Posted 23rd May 2020 at 08:02
JoergWausW Daily subscriber Completion time: 0:43 Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
I was just thinking: is the system telling you "you have one wrong digit" really any aid in solving? You have to find the wrong digit all by yourself (no aid at all), and that takes additional time. Or you ctr-z a bit and do it again from there...
In biathlon, the athlete has to run one penalty loop for each target he misses at the shooting stand. If he is still first at the end - did he have any aid? Do they scratch an extra star into his gold medal?
Posted 23rd May 2020 at 09:31
Last edited by HollyBlue 23rd May 2020 at 12:03
HollyBlue Daily subscriber Rated puzzle: Easy Completion time: 2:15
As JoergWausW says, it can take a long time to find the "one wrong digit". I find it especially annoying because usually the error is in my typing, not my thinking.
Posted 23rd May 2020 at 20:59
Last edited by gareth 23rd May 2020 at 20:59
gareth Administrator Daily subscriber Rated puzzle: Easy Completion time: 1:48
It lets you solve faster, so it’s an aid in terms of directly comparing times.

Of course if you don’t care about your solve time then you can use the solving assistants to highlight contradictory digits immediately.

Gareth

Posted 23rd May 2020 at 22:58
JoergWausW Daily subscriber Completion time: 0:43 Used 'check puzzle' when incorrect
Maybe I did not explain it very well. I didn't use "show wrong".

After I filled in every cell without any helping tool used, I clicked "check solution". I got the message "there is one wrong digit" (usually it's just a typo as HollyBlue mentioned). The message does not tell me which cell is wrong. Then I have to spend extra time looking for my mistake. After I find the wrong digit, I replace it with the right one. Then I click "check solution" again.
My name goes to the chart, marked * for "very minor assistance" and it is disqualified for "Best time without any aid".

My point is: When I have to spend extra time to search for wrong digit(s) all by myself, then that should be penalty enough. Clicking "check solution" does not help you to find the correct solution. Maybe if you click it after each new digit you put in. But that would cost a lot of time...

Posted 24th May 2020 at 15:01
Last edited by gareth 24th May 2020 at 15:03
gareth Administrator Daily subscriber Rated puzzle: Easy Completion time: 1:48
No, I understood. If you are comparing times with other people then you have received an assist, since you were wrong and hadn’t solved the puzzle correctly. Therefore your time is not quite as impressive as someone who solved in a similar time WITHOUT a mistake. All the system is doing is showing that they were more accurate, and possibly faster too. In any case, there are no prizes on puzzlemix so you’re free to interpret the displayed information however you wish, and ignore the indicator that appears on the times chart. :) The system allows you one submit error before moving you to the second column of the table, which I think is a fair compromise.

Be glad you're not doing a online puzzle competition, where a single error usually scores 0 points! :)

And to put it another way, you can just ignore the distinction shown on puzzlemix if you like, and compare your time using whatever metric you like. By keep the information visible, you have the choice and freedom to decide for yourself how your time should be graded - if at all.